[Peter Foliant]

Unfortunately you are right James. It is also disappointing that there is no response on the user issues listed in this group. Are they working on the issues? If so what is the status and when are improvements available to the members?

[Peter Foliant]

I just saw the Subscribing-button. I am not sure, but I think it is there to list your interest to all posts in a Group. Maybe there is a difference between joining a Group and subscribing to its discussions.

[Peter Foliant]

The site could be improved when the default, when joining a group, is that you are subscribed to all discussions in the group. Why would you join a group if you are not interested in its discussions? The option to unsubscribe from all discussions in a group is handy when the contributions are too much to read them all. But for now there are too little contributions for this to be the case.

[Peter Foliant]

Thank you for the update Armando. Good you have found the source of the problem and was able to fix in on Channel McGilchrist. Typing this message shows the improvement in useability. It is so much better!

Good to hear the BuddyBoss developers are fixing it in their WordPress application as well.

[Peter Foliant]

When replying you get into a modal dialogue. There is nothing else you can do than type, attach something, post or cancel. What is the rationale of the developers to save every 20 seconds? I can not yet think of a plausible reason.

When saving it should be in milli-seconds or it should be done asynchronously. A user should not become aware of this saving-delays at all.

Furthermore, why a modal dialogue. When typing a reply it would be easier to be able to see the contribution replying to and being able to copy some text of an earlier contribution. In my opinion replying should be done on the same page as where the earlier contributions are.

Best regards, Peter

[Peter Foliant]

Thank you for not giving up Tom. I have had a small exchange with you. I wish for the members area to grow into lots of exchanges between the members. The improvements that Armando is working on are very important for the platform and community to grow.

[Peter Foliant]

Hello Armando,

I was expecting to receive notifications when I joined a Group. Maybe it is better to automatically subscribe when joining a group and have the possibility to unsubscribe to the notifications of a Group.

Regards, Peter

[Peter Foliant]

Hi Armando,

Thank you for your response.

Regards, Peter

[Peter Foliant]

Hi Armando,

Responsiveness is still a bit slow, but it isn’t tediously slow anymore. Thank you. Working with the site has now become do-able. But there are still some smaller hickups. Some characters I am typing in this reply do not show up immediately, but after a delay. I can not think about any reason why my typing should have a delay at all. There should not be any communication with the server while I am typing. There should only be some communication with the server when I hit the Post-button after I am finished typing.

If I can help to run any automated speeds tests let me know.

Best Regards,

Peter

[Peter Foliant]

Thank you Armando for your response. Glad someone with technical skills is finally looking into the speed issues. Good luck with your efforts.

[Peter Foliant]

Hello Matt,

I suppose the servers are in Europe, but that should not be a problem.

I ran a whois command on channelmcgilchrist.com, see below. The domain is registered with a German registrar “CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com” by a registrant in Great Britain “Registrant Country: GB”. This does not mean the servers are there. But this makes it very likely to be the case. Unfortunately this registrar died not give direct information on the owner, admin and tech. The can respective e-mail addresses can be requested by a form. I did not request that.

Regards, Peter

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Domain Name: channelmcgilchrist.com

Registry Domain ID: 2482412486_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN

Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com

Registrar URL: https://joker.com

Updated Date: 2022-08-24T12:51:29Z

Creation Date: 2020-01-20T11:09:31Z

Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2024-01-20T11:09:31Z

Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com

Registrar IANA ID: 113

Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@joker.com

Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447

Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited

Registrant Country: GB

Registrant Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/channelmcgilchrist.com/owner

Admin Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/channelmcgilchrist.com/admin

Tech Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/channelmcgilchrist.com/tech

Name Server: x.ns.joker.com

Name Server: y.ns.joker.com

Name Server: z.ns.joker.com

DNSSEC: unsigned

URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/

>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2022-10-30T16:55:43Z <<<

[Peter Foliant]

Imagination is an interesting topic. I can understand that you would like to “poet-ize” a text that resonates with you. It is trying to express something in the “language” of the right hemisphere.

I have a very analytical mind and do not grasp or understand poems easily. But in a recent discussion I realised I should try a poetic form instead of a argumentative analytical form. I succeeded in writing a poem based on the contents of the discussion and on imagination. Of course I am an absolute amateur poet, but I liked trying to create the poem anyway. And to my astonishment I got a complement on the poem from the person that was “fighting” analytically before with the other participants in the discussion.

It is a pity that the site is currently having problems. I wish the team all the best in addressing them.

[Peter Foliant]

Hello Zak,

Thank you for your response. I took me some while to answer, because first I wanted to read Chapter 22 on Time to which you refer.

Causality belongs to the rational form of meaning giving. The rational form of meaning giving is based on the principle of linearity. Just as causality is mostly used in a linear fashion.

In the evolutionary form of meaning giving what emerges is the meaning that the environment gives. It’s principle is the principle of selection. From all the possible phenomena, it is this phenomenon that appears, is this selection from all possibilities. This selected phenomenon is the meaning the environment gives. The environment could select another phenomenon, but it did not.

As an observing person you do not explain (left hemisphere style), but you need to be observant and sensitive to whatever appears (right hemisphere style). When you observe for a longer time or when you observe repeatedly at various times, you will be able to see patterns emerge.

In evolutionary meaning giving, you start from a primary phenomenon p that you observe for the first time in observing an entity. The phenomenon can become animated in a number of stages (not real stages but a rationalised tool to be able to see something of an evolution of the emerging pattern, to see something of a development of the emerging pattern):

1. The phenomenon p repeats.
2. The phenomenon maintains itself in the environment.
3. The phenomenon grows and gets associated with other phenomena.
4. The phenomenon varies (contents and form change for the entity).
5. The phenomenon differentiates (contents and form change for the environment of the entity).
6. The phenomenon animates (it has gotten a “soul”, it has become a “stable” phenomenon in the environment, it can be used to give meaning to other phenomena).

At each stage the evolution can break down. For instance because there is an intervention that terminates it or because the environment becomes non-supportive for the phenomenon to re-appear or because of something else.

As a person you can give meaning to the pattern that emerges. You associate meaning to the pattern that has emerged. You do not make the pattern a thing, it is more that you give meaning to the process that emerges as a pattern (and its repetitions in various forms) in the environment.

Iain sees relationships as primary. In evolutionary meaning giving it is alway about “wisselwerking” (the reciprocal interaction) between an entity (which is part of the phenomenon) and the environment. So it is about a dynamic relationship between an entity and its environment. Both the entity and the environment take part and both change in the interaction.

For human entities there is reciprocal interaction between the reality of the environment and the processes in the brain and the re-presentation of the environment in the brain. There is an reciprocal interaction between the inside of the entity and the outside world.

There is interconnectedness in the entity (for instance between their organs and between the neurons in their brain) and there is interconnectedness in the environment. In rational meaning giving there is supposed to be an objective one-to-one correspondence between the inner world (and now I would say the left hemisphere world of concepts) and the world of phenomena outside.

As I understand Platonic: there are a kind of universal unchanging perfect Forms and reality is merely a poor approximation of those Forms.

The rational way of meaning giving has nothing to do with this. It does not suppose correspondence between Forms of a higher realm and mental concepts. The one-to-one correspondence supposed is between mental concepts (meanings) and phenomena in the real world. Plato’s Forms can not be observed and therefore there cannot be a corresponding Form-concept in the brain.

I suppose Plato’s Forms are mental concepts that do not exist in reality. When there are mental concepts in the brain that have no real world correspondence the form of meaning giving at play must be the self-referential form of meaning giving. One imagines something that does not exists. The correspondence between mental representations and phenomena in reality is imaginary, the correspondence is virtual.

The self-referential form of meaning giving in logical terms: The law of non-contradiction does not hold (it is possible to think of something that does not exist) and the law of excluded middle does hold (there is only one meaning and that is the meaning the person gives).

Iain speaks of Platonic forms as being an attempt to escape temporality. I think this is not a real escape, but an escape in the left hemispheric mind, hence the escape is virtual. The rational form of meaning giving seeks some kind of fixity in that it seeks fixed concepts with fixed conceptual relationships for real phenomena and real relationships, not for illusory phenomena as Plato’s Forms.

In evolutionary meaning giving the correspondence between mental concepts and phenomena in the real world is open, the correspondence is free. Various humans can give various (subjective) meanings to the same phenomena in reality or in the environment there can be phenomena unobserved by humans.

The evolutionary form of meaning giving in logical terms: The law of non-contradiction does not hold and the law of excluded middle does not hold.

In the social form of meaning giving one does not give meaning based on themselves, but based on the social group they belong too. People that give the same subjective meaning to a phenomenon form a social group. The reference of meaning is the group not the self. (The self is reference in the self-referential form of meaning giving). So in the social form of meaning giving there can be subjectivity. Subjectivity is not possible in the rational form of meaning giving that strives for objectivity.

The social form of meaning giving in logical terms: The law of non-contradiction does hold (one can only give meaning to phenomena that do exist and other way round: phenomena that exists (and can be observed) do get meaning) and the law of excluded middle does not hold (there can be subjective meanings given to a single phenomenon by various groups).

To be complete: The rational form of meaning giving in logical terms: The law of non-contradiction does hold and the law of excluded middle does hold. Thus in rational form of meaning giving there is a one-to-one and objective relationship between mental concepts (meanings) and phenomena in the real world.

[Peter Foliant]

Thank you James! There is a difference between posts in a Forum and (private) messages to a particular person. If you would like to test, just write me a private message.

Regards, Peter

[Peter Foliant]

Hello Zak,

I would love to help. It is common practice for Software Development to have an issue tracker. Maybe there is already some tool that the developers used? You can put all kinds of issues in such a tracker. From bugs to wishes for new functionality. A good tool provides you with an overview of all issues and with the possibility to assign issues to developers. It also needs to track the person who has contributed the issue. When an issue is solved, the person can than be notified. When a new requirement is assigned to a new release the person can be notified. When the development team works in a scrum based approach, issues and other work items are listed on a backlog and issues can be assigned to a sprint in which the issue will be solved. An example of a tool that is used a lot is Jira from Atlassian. This tool is ment to manage issue. The channels via which issues are contributed can be this forum, but also e-mail and maybe telephone. I would start with a group. Because you already have the infrastructure for that. I would not want you to have to high costs for a site that has just been started.

PS: I did not get a notification that you replied. So I just made a group for feedback on the new site myself. I will remove that now I see you have made one already.

PS2: If you would like to speak in person I am open to that. I am happy to contribute to this site ans its ongoing development.