Lucy Fleetwood
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Aha! Middle way philosophical system — Madhyamika — relative and ultimate reality. Look forward to your posts.
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Hi Zaf,
What a beautiful story and experience. I could feel the embodied-ness of this.
I think knowing our limits is helpful if the left brain doesn’t run off into a story about that. Did you find you were looking differently out of your eyes?
I sometimes ask myself ‘what’s looking out of my eyes’, or perhaps I’m in the middle of the business of a working day (left brain focus) and suddenly I’ll catch sight of a bird surfing the air currents and instantly my eyes feel different, because I’m looking out of them in a different way.
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Hi Don,
This is so interesting. In relation to your last paragraph can you recommend some reading so that I might understand more?
Lucy
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Hi Paul
Thank you. I wonder if you could help my understanding in another way?
I found myself thinking about AI, how it can write a wealth of people’s words in a few seconds. Yesterday evening as I walked through the park I thought some more. And I realised my thinking wasn’t just a data download of words, but a fully embodied human experience. It’s never really just about the words, they are just tools for sharing something.
I walked under a sky lit up with apricot that cast a hushed but brilliant golden light on the bushes and wet earth. The birds were singing their way to bed. Two teenagers sat on a bench having a smoke, a dog rolled in the muddy grass and a dad was running his toddler home atop his shoulders.
This was an embodied human experience no machine can ever have or understand. We are different things.
As I left the park and the Victorian metal gate clanged behind me, I crossed the rain soaked road sparkling in the early evening sunlight. The apricot sky created pools of gold in the puddles that drew me in, and I thought about sharing this, and I wondered what was different in my sharing, to the latest AI words downloaded in a few seconds. And I realised. When I write warm words something happens in my heart.
If I walked in silence with a friend through hazy sunshine on a warm summers afternoon, words would not be needed. And so, I share warm words not as data, but through this heart that is embodied human, to other people’s. Simple silent slow beginnings. Where it will take us, cannot be predicted.
How do these thoughts fit in with it all?
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Hi Whit,
I’ve just been reading this fascinating dialogue. I wondered about your last comment, are you thinking in terms of a prescribed spiritual pathway for people?
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Hi Don,
So much of what you put up mirrors the teachings I receive from my Tibetan Lama/teachers, except the idea of soul. It has been very peaceful and presencing to read your posts.
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Hi Don, you are posting some lovely pieces of advice. Sometimes I ask myself, what is looking out of my eyes, I find it a great way of coming back into the present moment.
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This is beautiful, so simple, and yet so hard 🙂
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Hi Don, thank you for sharing this. I’m a little out of my depth, can you suggest how best to put this into practice?
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I will be there
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I’d love to hear more about this!
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This is really interesting, I am sitting with it and hope others will reply. I’m so aware that thoughts light up in my brain, and that I’ve finally reached a place where I don’t view them as ‘me’ or ‘truth’, for so much of my life I did. I sense that there is a new way of living, free from the LH dominating my life, re-remembering that we are much more, and yet as I reflect into language, I use my LH, it is only when I don’t reflect into language, that I remain in my RH, or so it seems.
I am a novice and new to all of this, so please do put me right, I don’t know, what I don’t know. I recently read, ‘Clara and the Sun’, such a clever book, I found myself identifying with the AI friend, it was so cleverly written to achieve this, I had to keep reminding myself that I am a human, and it got me thinking, the reason I was so easily taken into this response to the storyline, is because so much of my life I have had to live and respond from the LH, in order to function in our world, keeping the RH for when I am on my own – just being, or doing something creative, which is a more acceptable RH pastime compared to just ‘being’.
And so, the thought I am having is, if AI is operating in a way that mirrors our LH and lacks the RH, is that a cause for concern? It doesn’t seem to bode well when we operate solely from our LH.
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agreed.
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Hi Mark, yes she speaks words of wisdom. I wonder what it is that takes us from the LH into the RH when we are in nature. Is it that we are set free from needing to use the LH? Is it that we are surrounded by and embedded in the RH when our hands are in the soil, or walking through the natural world we are part of, that we come from. I am not an academic, but I wonder where our ideas about the divisions between inner and outer play into this?
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Hi Don, can you tell me the difference between ‘consciousness’ and ‘sentient’ ?