[Manuela van der Glas]

Dear Nathaniel

Maybe this is in the direction of what you are looking for?

https://youtu.be/diQmpp5P-28?feature=shared

Merry Christmas to you, Manuela

[Manuela van der Glas]

Dear all

It was lovely seeing two new faces joining the conversation.

A heartfelt thank you for all participating in the conversation 🙏🏻

We started out one hour early due to the winter time changes in Europe vs US and ended our conversation roughly on time nevertheless.

The conversation started out with generational / collective trauma and how it is passed on, colonialism vs. indigenous peoples, feudal and capitalist systems / business models and totalitarian governance vs republican and democratic constitutions. This leaning on to the topics that last Saturday were shared.

We figured that ‘size matters’ in the sense of the amount of people able to participate in ‘demos’ democracy (coherently) as well as the dangers of propaganda and ‘attention grabbing’ vs. ability to think.

To conclude: Of essence is our relationship (probably with ourselves) and how we relate to one another as well as to the non-human world. We sensed how challenging it can sometimes be to stay in relation – and how important survival (ie in colonialism and its re-actions) vs. feeling safe ( in relating by listening to, being heard, being seen) is.

Interestingly an article came to be written today morning ( you know, I love writing) with the title:

“Lived healthy governance = the fundament for ‘strategy’. Here’s what we forgot & urgently need to re-member”

I sense – in addition to Iains’ invitation to look for the truth, the beauty and the good, the a.m. article offers an additional approach about how we can create some common ground to ‘live by’. Should you like to read it, please do let me know. I am happy to share the link.

We see each other again on the 6th of December 2024 at 6 pm CET.

Our zoom link is:

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I wish you a joyful month and look very much forward to continuing our conversation then.

with kindness, Manuela

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@bobeng @chrys @pbarus @flormccarthy @Forest @janschloesser @frodo

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What was the decision re budget in the UK and how will this affect family farms? Would you like to share more?

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Dear @Forest @chrys @janschloesser @bobeng

thank you 🙏 to you all for such a lively conversation on a First Friday at 6 pm CET [Amsterdam].

For the ones joining from ‘western-US’ [ie SFO/LA] it was 9 am in the morning

and for the ones joining from ‘eastern-US’ [ie NY] it was 12/noon.

Thank you for showing up, joining and creating a lively conversation. 🙏🏻

@Forest before you logged off on zoom, you made a sound, that I interpret and form the assumption that you might have wanted to copy & paste the links we shared in our chat. In case this assumption is ‘true’, I am sharing the links here: [note: you might need to copy & paste them to make them show up in ‘google’.]

1.

https://www.cogpsych.uni-konstanz.de/pdf/Schlosser&al_2009.pdf

2.

https://innerwilds.blog/p/solving-mcgilchrists-big-problem

3.

https://thamesandhudson.com/secret-knowledge-rediscovering-the-lost-techniques-of-the-old-masters-9780500286388

Fascinating for me was how the ‘dialogue unfolded’ [David Bohm].

We started out with @Forest mentioning one of the art-restoration projects in a Russian church, working on ‘Ikons’ and how she experienced being there. @Forest, would you like to share the link of your website where some pictures of your work are displayed?

@chrys shared how to intentionally switch perceptions, i.e. covering ones left/right eye and observe how things change. For more, please see the 3rd link above. I shared in relation to my work that I experienced how one’s intention can/does determine what we are able ‘see’/perceive [and how we label/name ‘it’]

@janschloesser was sharing his work [his publication is the first link above] and how he was wondering ‘how to apply Iains’ work’. From there the conversation led to @bobeng sharing about the tibetan retreat he attended and how challenging it is to ‘work’ and ‘apply Iains’ work. We touched on the label ‘complicity’ and @Chrys rounded off with the inquiry into Jan’s work, because he was the first time ‘here’.

Jan’s comment: “I didn’t know what to expect. But this exceeded my expectations.” made me smile. Thank you for that, Jan.

@bobeng created a Whatsapp group that can serve us for example to have the day/time as well as the new zoom-link ready or ‘handy’.

@pbarus lovely that you were travelling (I hope all went well and you enjoyed that) and that you loged in on the 4th of July, the US-Independence day.

Just in case for others to make a note in their calendars too [in case they would love to attend in the future also – however this is no obligation, only an invitation to join ] here are our upcoming First Fridays:

Aug 2, 2024 06:00 PM

Sep 6, 2024 06:00 PM

Oct 4, 2024 06:00 PM

Nov 1, 2024 06:00 PM

Dec 6, 2024 06:00 PM

Jan 3, 2025 06:00 PM

Feb 7, 2025 06:00 PM

Mar 7, 2025 06:00 PM

Apr 4, 2025 06:00 PM

May 2, 2025 06:00 PM

Jun 6, 2025 06:00 PM

Jul 4, 2025 06:00 PM

Aug 1, 2025 06:00 PM

Sep 5, 2025 06:00 PM

Oct 3, 2025 06:00 PM

Nov 7, 2025 06:00 PM

Dec 5, 2025 06:00 PM

[I don’t know if this is working from here/this platform, but leave it in anyway – in case it does, it might be convenient.] -> Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.

Monthly: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/tZUqcO-qqz8tGdTfqqhQt2wxVBXMN7r5RR1L/ics?icsToken=98tyKuGpqTwsGNGRtxqHRpwcB4_CM-rwmClajadpmg70CxFHMBTuAMB6H5woAo3i

Join Zoom Meeting [this is the valid link – the old one is no longer working]

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/81776254730?pwd=6D0ET12JZja2pHG6xJlHuMBRbBgbv3.1

Meeting ID: 817 7625 4730

Passcode: 9Wiykc

<b style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit;”>Time-zone converter – in case you live in another time-zone, https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html can help you finding the equivalent to 6 pm CET in your time-zone.

I hope I have covered ‘everything’ – being aware when writing that that phrase also entails that I can not cover all that has been said and being looked at last Friday. So, if @Forest @chrys @janschloesser and @bobeng would like to add / change something for completion, – then feel free. 😊😅

I wish everyone who is reading this a lovely month and we see each other again on Friday, 2nd of August 2024 at 6 pm CET, 9am LA, 12/noon NY.

With kindness,

Manuela

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This is to mention and include everyone who has been attending so far:

@shannon @pbarus

I hope you all get receive the information. 😅

Just in case ‘First Fridays’ want to marked in the calendar, below are the following first Fridays of the month as an overview for you. I hope this helps. With kindness, Manuela

Aug 2, 2024 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Sep 6, 2024 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Oct 4, 2024 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Nov 1, 2024 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Dec 6, 2024 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Jan 3, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Feb 7, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Mar 7, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Apr 4, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

May 2, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Jun 6, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Jul 4, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Aug 1, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Sep 5, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Oct 3, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Nov 7, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Dec 5, 2025 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

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Indeed Christina, this resonates a lot with what Iain says that ‘we perceive outside of us’ – not ‘merely with our bains’ – and I can confirm that this is an entire different way of perceiving. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻

[Manuela van der Glas]

Dear Christina

Thank you very much for sharing this.

Goosebumps gave me when she said:

„ … hope … our ancestors did it …“

( living in harmony with mother earth, protecting / providing / creating more habitat for all life, because we are a keystone species whose purpose is taking care of earth, we are stewards, for generations to come )

„… we can do it again…“

Thank you 🙏🏻

I wish you good weeks and look forward to seeing you (all) again . 🍀

With kindness

Manuela

P.S. I came across the mystery of consciousness:

https://youtu.be/3V3_Y_FuMYk?feature=shared

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Dear Jim,

a warm welcome to CM

Yes they are. The next one is: Nov 1, 2024 18:00 CET / Amsterdam

Please feel free to join:

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Wish you a nice evening and we look forward to seeing you there. 🎉

With kindness,

Manuela

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Dear Christina

just to let you know, I asked CMcG-support to look into ‘re-arranging’ the area so that it gives us a ‘better ‘chat’ overview’?

With kindness,

Manuela

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Dear Christina, thank you for checking 🙏🏻 With kindness, Manuela

[Manuela van der Glas]

Dear Peter

Lovely that you respond. Thank you!

I hope you had a good time travelling and enjoyed the change in scenery.

I am sorry it didn’t work out this time. I have added the days in the previous post as well as the new zoom link again. This new zoom link is the one working – the old one isn’t working anymore, because I had to open up a new zoom-account [to say it in a ‘nutshell’].

I wish you a lovely month in Vermont – or lovely travels. See you!

With kindness,

Manuela

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Dear Bob

It was lovely to read your post. Indeed, it seems to be close to where you live, but 95 miles, can be a distance – and it needs time to get there.

You mentioned ‘coming into being’. Two days ago I was watching the latest conversation with Iain on uTube – in which he mentioned that there is a “… electromagnetic field, a field that brings / pulls things into being…” This is very much in synchronicity with that what you wrote in your post. Lovely.

By the way – today is the 1st Friday of the month and we will meet on zoom at 6 pm CET [Amsterdam time] our zoom-link is: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/81776254730?pwd=6D0ET12JZja2pHG6xJlHuMBRbBgbv3.1

The zoom link, I will post it in the ‘general section’ again, to ensure that the ones who love to be there, can.

Bob, I wish you a lovely morning and look forward to seeing you later.

@chrys I hope you can make it too.

With kindness,

Manuela

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When I try to do the 4 exercises, I perceive it as like ‘putting on glasses / a filter / a focus’ – depending on its ‘openness’ ie ‘just listen’, a variety of levels can unfold, like listening to my body, my heartbeat, how ot feels, listening to what I am thinking (now typing) – listening to the ambient noise, ie a pet snoring, an ambulance go by, ‘just listen’ – the washing machine turning, gushing water, … fascinating exercises.

Cristina, what did you ‘hear’ when you ‘just listened’?

I can imagine hearing the seagulls calling for each other or for treats or for food 🪿( = emoj goose – I know its not a seagull, but it is sharing the same colours of the feather – white reflecting, whereas black would absorb…)

[Manuela van der Glas]

I love the 12 theses of attention, thank you for sharing Christina.

One phrase that caught my eye was ‘attention entrapped’ – this lead to the thought of ‘humans becoming more and more (automatically) tied to algorithms/ triggers – due to the dopamine release such an interaction provides us with and therefore one could get addicted to ‘loads of dopamine’ and therefore as Iain said “callus it over” and even more is needed – a vicious cycle that ‘entraps’ the ince free to roam attention (seeking that what needed / wanted to be found in the natural world? – I wonder) ..

I hope to see you again on Friday, next, the 5th of July – and continue our conversation.

Thank you, Christina. 🙏🏻